IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY SO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE?

Yesterday, Mar. 9, 2021, on Tall Tales with Bob Klitzkie, there was a question about why two doctors from Hawaii - with the backing of the ACLU - are suing the Government of Guam (Leevin Camacho, et al) over two provisions in Guam law which the doctors say are prohibiting them from performing medication abortions via telemedicine, i.e. prescribing abortion pills over the internet.

While there is speculation about a profit motive, the facts don't bear that out. In the the Guam Attorney General's Opposition, Deputy Attorney General, James Canto, notes that between 2012 and 2016, medication abortions accounted for less than 1% to 3% of the abortions, which averaged about 250 per year, or 2 to 7 abortions per year. 

According to Planned Parenthood, a medication abortion can cost up to $1000. However, that figure most likely includes doctor visits both before and after the medication abortion which is usually the ingestion of two pills self-administered by a woman at home. 

And because the two Hawaii doctors cannot perform the pre and post examinations over the internet, they would have to partner with local doctors to perform those functions and thus share the profits.

But even if the Hawaii doctors did cash in on the full $1000, $2000 to $7000 per year is hardly motivation for any doctor to file a 150-plus page lawsuit. Attorney and court costs would must likely eat up at least a couple years profits before this could even get off the ground, even if their suit could prevail.

So what's really going on here? 

Esperansa Project co-founder, Tim Rohr, called into Tall Tales and explained:

The documents procured by the Vigilance Committee demonstrating the connection between Governor Lou Leon Guerrero (in the person of Jayne Flores), which are referred to in the above clip, can be found here.

VICTORY? HARDLY!

The ACLU is claiming "victory" pursuant to a "settlement" with the Government of Guam: 

VICTORY: SETTLEMENT IN ACLU CHALLENGE WILL RESTORE ABORTION ACCESS IN GUAM.

The truth is, first, there was no "victory," and second, there was no restoration of abortion access in Guam. 

1. Victory?

Hardly. The settlement states in part:

Section 31.20 does not prohibit the prescription, dispensing, delivery, and/or receipt of abortion medication outside a qualified physician’s adequately equipped medical clinic or outside a hospital operated by the United States or Guam.

The ACLU's agreeing to this is an admission by the ACLU that there never was a prohibition on medication abortions outside a medical facility, which was one half of the ACLU's 49 page lawsuit (155 pages with exhibits). 

The two Hawaii doctors who are Plaintiffs in the suit could have simply asked the AG for a clarification of 9 GCA Section 31.20 instead of filing their mega lawsuit. But they didn't. Why? We'll get to that.

Medication abortions are basically do-it-yourself abortions. A woman is given a couple of pills with instructions. Normally the woman goes home, takes the pills as instructed, and the baby is eventually expelled into the toilet or the trash. The end.

There is hardly a need for a woman to interface with a physician in a medication abortion other than to pick up the prescription. 

Essentially this was the AG's argument, i.e. that the pertinent provision in Section 31.20 applied only to surgical abortions, since the provision, enacted in 1978, was enacted before medication abortions were available.

It could be said that the AG "punted" given that the "1978 argument" - while interesting - is still not conclusive. There was nothing prohibiting the AG from sticking with the strict statutory definition of "abortion" i.e. the termination of a pregnancy, instead of parsing the "how" of how the pregnancy is terminated.

The AG's "punt" may also prove to be dangerous. While a woman might be able to get abortions pills via telemedicine, as one local doctor pointed out: who is going to be there for the woman when there are complications given that no doctor in Guam is willing to perform abortions?

2. Restore abortion access in Guam?

Not.

Pursuant to the same statement in the settlement (above) and the AG's interpretation, medication abortions outside a medical facility have never been prohibited. Thus NOTHING was "restored." 

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As mentioned, instead of a mega-page lawsuit from a big-letter group like the ACLU, this issue could have been resolved simply and quietly with a one page letter to the AG asking for clarification of the pertinent section of the law. 

And the fact that this matter was not resolved "simply and quietly" tells us that there is something else afoot.

We don't have to look too far to find "something else afoot" given our current governor's decades of very public abortion advocacy and the creation of an office within her administration that appears to have one job and that is to find off-island doctors willing to kill Guam children in the womb since none of Guam's 300-plus physicians are willing to do it.

Given the documents procured by the Vigilance Committee demonstrating communications dating back to 2019 between the Governor's abortionist-finder-in-chief, Jayne Flores, and both of the Plaintiffs in the ACLU suit, there is little doubt that our own Governor is behind the suit - which comically - if not tragically - plays out as the Governor of Guam suing the Government of Guam behind the veil of the ACLU.

Note: the second part of the ACLU suit is a challenge to Guam' informed consent law. More to come on that soon.

TIM ROHR LETTER TO THE EDITOR OF THE GUAM DAILY POST, FEB. 27, 2021

 Neither law nor church preventing abortions on Guam

In a lengthy letter to the Daily Post on Feb. 18, Dr. Ellen Bez attacked Guam’s abortion laws for forcing women to seek off-island abortion providers.

None of Guam’s abortion laws force women to seek off-island abortion providers. What forces women to seek off-island abortion providers are doctors like Bez who refuse to provide abortions right here at home despite publicly advocating for abortion services, well, “right here at home.”

Bez tries to get around this contradiction by blaming the Catholic Church, the usual straw man. But unless you want to count the four or five people who stand out in front of a particular clinic in Tamuning once a week with signs and rosaries, the Catholic Church is wholly absent from this matter.

CONTINUED

JAYNE FLORES: "THERE IS HOPE"

In an email from Jayne Flores, the Lou Leon Guerrero Administration 's Director of Women's Affairs, to Deborah Nucatola, Medical Director of Planned Parenthood's clinic in Hawaii (and elsewhere), dated Jun 25, 2019, Flores wrote:

I would describe the atmosphere on our island, with its 165,000 population that is a majority Catholic, as initially hostile toward this issue. However, over half of the voting public cast ballots in favor of our first female governor…Lourdes Leon Guerrero, in November 2018 despite her openly pro-choice stance. So there is hope.

Hope for what? Hope for Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider, to open up a clinic on Guam. In the same email, Flores writes:

If PP wanted to open a clinic here, is that we do have a medical clinic that recently closed. Would there be a possibility that PP would be interested in leasing this space to set up its own clinic?

Flores' email to Nucatola was copied to Bliss Kaneshiro, a party to the ACLU lawsuit, Deighton Kavarne, another employee of Planned Parenthood, Anita Arriola, a well-known Guam attorney who has been at the forefront of advancing abortion on Guam for many years, and Dr. Ellen Bez, a local Ob/Gyn who, pursuant to her letter to the editor a few days ago is pro-abortion advocate.  

What the documents procured by the Vigilance Committee show is a series of dots that are not hard to connect, and once connected will show that it is not the ACLU and two doctors from Hawaii that are suing the Government of Guam, but will show what we knew all along, that once the curtain is pulled back, it is the Governor of Guam who is suing the Government of Guam.

So yes, "there is hope."

MICHELLE AREMENTA TRIES...

Michelle did a good job here, but she didn't give KUAM the story it was looking for (controversy with the Catholic Church). So they cut her most important comments. 

NOTE: The sad fact is that 80% of this island is Catholic. And this island elected the most openly pro-abortion governor ever. So why is KUAM and the rest of the media trying to make this about the  Catholic Church vs a pro-abortion governor? 

For now, they are one and the same. And they have been for a very long time. 

TIM ROHR W RAY GIBSON ON THE POINT. JUNE 12, 2019

From the 2016 Abortion Report. Every year, it's the same story.

CNA: GUAM GOVERNOR WANTS TO EXPAND ABORTION

Guam governor wants to expand abortion, but local doctors are unwilling

Hagatna, Guam, Jun 9, 2019 / 04:24 am (CNA).- The government of the island of Guam is offering waivers and discounts for contraception through a public health clinic, and the territory’s governor has said she wants to find a doctor willing to perform abortions, after the retirement of the island’s last abortionist.

Governor Lourdes Leon Guerrero, a former nurse who took office in January, recently expressed her wish to expand abortion access in the state, but no doctors on the island are willing to perform abortions. CONTINUED

UK INDEPENDENT: GUAM'S FIRST FEMALE GOVERNOR BATTLES FOR BETTER ABORTION ACCESS

Guam’s first female governor battles for better abortion access in heavily Catholic US territory

Lourdes Leon Guerrero vigorously defended abortion rights as she campaigned to become the first female governor of Guam. She won, but now no doctors are willing to perform the procedure she fought so hard to defend.

The last abortion provider in the heavily Catholic US territory retired in May 2018. That is forcing women seeking to end their pregnancies to fly thousands of miles from the remote Pacific island — a costly and sometimes prohibitive step. CONTINUED

TIME: THERE ARE NO ABORTION PROVIDERS IN GUAM

There Are No Abortion Providers in Guam — the Governor Wants That to Change

(HONOLULU) — Lourdes Leon Guerrero vigorously defended abortion rights as she campaigned to become the first female governor of Guam. She won, but now no doctors are willing to perform the procedure she fought so hard to defend. The last abortion provider in the heavily Catholic U.S. territory retired in May 2018. That’s forcing women seeking to end their pregnancies to fly thousands of miles from the remote Pacific island — a costly and sometimes prohibitive step. CONTINUED

AP: ABORTIONS ARE LEGAL IN GUAM, BUT DOCTORS WON'T PERFORM THEM

Abortions are legal in Guam, but doctors won’t perform them

HONOLULU (AP) — Lourdes Leon Guerrero vigorously defended abortion rights as she campaigned to become the first female governor of Guam. She won, but now no doctors are willing to perform the procedure she fought so hard to defend.

The last abortion provider in the heavily Catholic U.S. territory retired in May 2018. That’s forcing women seeking to end their pregnancies to fly thousands of miles from the remote Pacific island — a costly and sometimes prohibitive step. CONTINUED

CNN: ABORTION IS LEGAL IN GUAM, BUT...

Abortion is legal in Guam. But the closest provider is a long flight away

(CNN) As states move to restrict abortion and access to it, women in the US territory of Guam already face a greater burden than crossing state lines for the procedure.

They must fly a long way, with Hawaii -- more than seven hours away by plane -- the closest US destination where they can get the Constitutionally protected medical service. CONTINUED

PDN: CONCERN OVER LACK OF ABORTION PROVIDER RAISED

Concern over lack of abortion provider raised

While states in the mainland are challenging access to abortions through legislation, access to abortions on Guam has been restricted due to sheer circumstance.

Abortions are legal on Guam, but since June last year none have been reported to the Office of Vital Statistics. CONTINUED

PDN: NO ABORTION PROVIDERS ON GUAM

No abortion providers on Guam

For years there were two doctors who performed abortions on Guam. One retired in 2016; the second doctor retired last month, leaving the island without any physicians who will perform abortions.

The lack of abortion providers on island may force women to go to great lengths or go through great risk to terminate unwanted pregnancies, according to attorney Anita Arriola, a longtime advocate for abortion rights. CONTINUED

UPDATE: Firms reach $7.8-million settlement over allegations of selling fetal tissue

"Prosecutors opened an investigation into the companies in September 2015 after a complaint was submitted by Irvine-based Center for Medical Progress. The anti-abortion group gained national attention in 2015 after releasing a video showing Planned Parenthood affiliates discussing the sale of aborted fetuses. CONTINUED

Planned Parenthood - DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR PRAISES PLANNED PARENTHOOD

BIRTH CONTROL AND ABORTION HAVE LIBERATED MEN...NOT WOMEN

The next time you hear the likes of a Lou LG or any of the other "women's health" mantra spouters, remember this scenario. 

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I am a professional young man in his 20's. I just met this girl and she is quite attractive. We meet to have a few drinks. One thing leads to another and, well, you know. We talk a few times after that but it just doesn't seem to be working, so I don't call her back anymore.

A few weeks later she calls me at work and says we need to talk. "What for?"

"Just meet me."

I met her at Starbucks's after work and she looks like she might have been crying. After an awkward hug and a kiss, we sit down with our drinks and then blammo...

"I am pregnant."

I paused for a moment and then said, "Ok. Why tell me?"

"Well, its your baby and I thought you would want to know. After all, you are responsible."

"Whoa, hold on there. I am not responsible for anything. This was your choice."

"It takes two, or don't you remember?"

"Sorry, but this is only your healthcare issue."

"It's not a healthcare issue, it's a baby!"

"Oh no it's not. It's a healthcare issue and not my problem. You have access to government mandated and subsidized free birth control. There was no reason for this to happen. This is entirely up to you."

"You never asked me if I was on birth control. We got caught up and..."

"I am sorry you feel this way but it is not my problem. You are responsible for your own healthcare, not me. You get birth control for free, there is no impediment to you getting it. If you choose not to use it or use it incorrectly, I can't be held responsible for that. If you have a healthcare problem now, don't blame me, blame yourself."

"It's not a healthcare problem, it's not a disease, it's a baby!"

"Sorry, not according to the government. This is a preventable health condition, the cure for which you get for for free courtesy of my tax dollars. How can I possibly be held responsible for your negligence in the prevention of a freely preventable disease?"

"Stop saying that! You can't do this! I will sue for paternity!"

"Go ahead and try. Dozens of cases just like this have already been heard around the country in the last 2 years. In each and every case the court has found that given the government mandated and pervasive free access to birth control, men have a reasonable expectation that women are able to protect themselves from this disease. You can't punish me with a baby because of your negligence. You do remember that I am a lawyer, right?"

"You are a monster!"

"Listen. It has been real. Do me a favor, lose my number."

HISSING SOUNDS ONLY

By Tim Rohr

As we now well know, current Bank of Guam president and Democratic nominee for governor, Lou Leon Guerrero, opposes normal medical care for children who survive a failed abortion. She infamously opposed it at a legislative hearing in 2013 (Bill 195-13), and, unless she says otherwise, she apparently still opposes NORMAL medical care for children who survive a failed abortion. 

This is not about abortion. This about the willful murder of a child who lies writhing on the "delivery" table. 

But since the mother wanted the child dead in the first place, Lou Leon Guerrero made it clear in her testimony in opposing a bill which would mandate NORMAL medical care for that crying, writhing, gasping child, that the child should be dispatched.

How to do that? Perhaps that should have been a question asked of Lou Leon Guerrero during that  public hearing. It wasn't, but let's pretend:

"Ms. Leon Guerrero, so you are opposed to providing normal medical care to a child, a living child, who survives a failed abortion. Please describe how you would recommend that the child be therefore terminated:

1. Twist its neck till it breaks
2. Snip its spine in half (a la Kermit Gosnell)
3. Drown it in a bucket of water
4. Stick a scissors into the base of its skull and suck its brains out (partial birth abortion technique)
5. Cut it into pieces (normal Dilation and Extraction technique)
6. Leave it to squirm, writhe, cry, and die, then throw it in the medical waste bag
7. Dissect it immediately and market its body parts (a la Planned Parenthood)

Ms. Leon Guerrero...? Ms. Leon Guerrero...?

On July 17, 2006, a certain Syclora Williams gave birth to a child who should have been dead. By coincidence, I wrote about it 6 years ago in the Umatuna, the newspaper for the Archdiocese of Agana, and it came up in my Facebook memories just now. 

HISSINGS SOUNDS ONLY
https://1timothy315.blogspot.com/2012/10/hissing-sounds-only.html

LOU LEON GUERRERO PRAISES PLANNED PARENTHOOD

2018 Democratic candidate for Guam governor tells a crowd that she is "for life," while praising the nation's number one killer of children and purveyor of baby body parts. Given that both of Guam's infamous abortion clinics are now closed due to the retirement of both abortionists, it is quite possible that Lou Leon Guerrero will invite Planned Parenthood to Guam.

By "coincidence," the day after Esperansa launched this blog and posted the results of the Catholic Pro Life Committee Candidate Survey, the Archdiocese of Agana sent out a terse "reminder" (reprimand) regarding the restrictions on political activities of non-profit organizations. And because our local church's non-profit status is more important than dead babies, we are all supposed to shut up and sit down.

But make no mistake. The AOA reprimand of yesterday was NOT about protecting the church's non-profit status, but about protecting its relationship with one of its largest donors - not to mention the millions of dollars in business it does with said "donor's" bank. 

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